On this awesome episode of THE CRUDE TRUTH, Brian Stubbs, CEO of Air Compressor Solutions shares how he and his company are making the oil and gas industry more environmentally friendly. Brian also discusses the good and bad he seeโs being an entrepreneur. For any entrepreneur this is a much watch!
Highlights of the Podcast
04:25 โ Main business in Odessa
04:32 โ Switching to air compressors
05:52 โ The main reason and now weโre seeing a lot of benefits to using air.
06:32 โ The air and then we put it through whatโs called a dryer.
10:12 โ Change our business model and change our business plan
12:17 โ Want to invest in commercial real estate
17:44 โ New Mexico in far west Texas
25:06 โ The perfect number where oil and gas companies
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THE CRUDE TRUTH Ep. 61 Brian Stubbs, CEO of Air Compressor Solutions. Sharing Entrepreneurial Tips
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Rey Treviรฑoย [00:01:43] Well good morning. Good evening. Good afternoon. Whatever time of the day or night it is. Thank you, as always, for tuning in to another episode of The Crude Truth. I just want to take a moment to tell everybody that, you know, to please, like, subscribe and send any questions that you may have about any of the episodes or, uh, and we can definitely be sure to fill out, you know, whatever answer and get you questions back to you as I mumble all these words here this morning. Uh, the reason why Iโm mumbling, I think, is because Iโm just overly excited once again, uh, to have on just such a great guest. And not only are there guests, but as I mentioned in the teaser, there are also a sponsor of The Crude Truth. They have been here, uh, since I first started this show almost two years ago. Now, uh, my guest today is the president and CEO of Air Compressor Solutions, Brian Stubbs. Brian, how Are you ?.
Brian Stubbsย [00:02:33] Doing great. Thanks for having me on. Very fun.
Rey Treviรฑoย [00:02:35] ย Well, thank you. Thank you for making the trip up to Dallas and, uh, coming to the show. And, Brian, you know, I talk to you often, and I always say it, but thank you so much for being a sponsor of the crude Truth and being a mentor. You, uh, you know, I come to you, I talk to you about things, and, uh, so, so thank you so much for all that youโve been able to do
Brian Stubbsย [00:02:55] Entrepreneurship.ย All about is helping others, right?
Rey Treviรฑoย [00:02:56] That is a whole point to know. It is. And I think weโre weโre slowly getting back to that where people are helping others out. I know, um, in my fatherโs generation, especially in the oil game, it was, you know, you keep everything close and like, you donโt tell anybody what youโre doing. Donโt tell, uh, you know, now thereโs some trade secrets that you donโt want to share all the time. And and I think we had that meeting in the, in the pre-production. I said, hey, because, you know, I you to come on to talk about, um, being an entrepreneur today. Uh, but, you know, and I say, I donโt want you to give away all the secrets, but but, you know, youโve been able to do some great things. And the greatest thing I think youโve done is be a sponsor of The Crude Truth. Since the since the inception of the idea.
Brian Stubbsย [00:03:34] Thank you. We think so, too.
Rey Treviรฑoย [00:03:36] And, you know, uh, I had a chance that we got to me. Uh, well, not me, but, uh, visit there at the Permian Basin International Oil Show. And, uh, so if anybody, you know, for all those out there that listen to that, of course, you know, you said yes before I even finished with the concept. So, uh, are would telling you the concept of the crude truth. So thank you. Thank you so much.
Brian Stubbsย [00:03:54] No problem. Itโs been a lot of fun, how long has it been? Itโs been. Two years
Rey Treviรฑoย [00:03:56] Two years. And then Iโve known you now I think for for.
Brian Stubbsย [00:03:59] I think thatโs what we said.
Rey Treviรฑoย [00:04:00] Yes. Yeah. And, uh, I mean. Oh, itโs been a blast. Itโs been a blast. And again, you know, I know you. Youโll meet me for a cup of coffee there in Midland, whether itโs 630 in the morning or 10:00 in the morning or even in the evening time, itโs like, hey, letโs get together whenever Iโm in town. So I cannot thank you enough. Uh, but to start off, you know, air Compressor solutions, you guys are a one stop shop for.
Brian Stubbsย [00:04:23] So we do, uh, pretty much our main business in Odessa, at least, is Ingersoll Rand Air compressors. So, um, honestly, itโs itโs been a great ride just because weโre switching to air compressors to get rid of emissions and releasing natural gas at first, mostly batteries, but also tanks and wells and, uh, through the whole stream now. um, so we provide a lot of air compressors for the oil field in Odessa. Uh, but we also do use on generators and a couple other brands. Um, so any kind of generator that you might need, or portable air compressor or diesel driven, uh, air compressor, we can do um, and some other small equipment like in your screen tools and things like that. So wide product line. Lots of these stuff
Rey Treviรฑoย [00:05:00] Itโs a huge product line. You know, uh, for guys out there that may have a, like, be like, hey, you know, what is what is one problem that that youโre helping solve out there for these oil and gas companies and like, hey, Iโve got an issue, you know, can you can you give us an example?
Brian Stubbsย [00:05:13] Uh, so itโs actually, um, the, the main one that we do is again, um, oil companies trying to be more green and more environmentally friendly. And so were they. One of the big learnings they had was, hey, we release a lot of natural gas into the atmosphere just through our production and then using natural gas to actuate the valves, especially at batteries. Um, again, it itโs a little poof each time, but you have 100 valves in 100 locations. Itโs it can add up pretty quickly. So for the best, about 6 or 7 years weโve been out replacing the use of natural gas as a, um, um, power source at batteries and switching that to clean air. And, uh, itโs actually been a really neat journey because that was the main reason of and now weโre seeing a lot of benefits to using air. Itโs cleaner, itโs easier to maintain. You donโt get stuff in your lines. Uh, you donโt, you know, we put dryers on it so you donโt have to worry about water and other things when it gets cold. So it actually has increased uptime at batteries, um, which was kind of a secondary effect. But now that weโre learning and working with some of our customers, weโre really learning. Itโs good for the environment, but itโs also really good for uptime, itโs really good for production, and thereโs a lot of neat things that those locations.
Rey Treviรฑoย [00:06:19] Well, you know, you mentioned, like even when it gets cold, you know, that, you know, if we all remember a few years ago when who um, basically everything froze up. Yeah. So it can help with that as well and keep things running, so to speak. At least on that in.
Brian Stubbsย [00:06:31] Yeah. So really, you know, we, we compress the air and then we put it through whatโs called a dryer. So it takes all the water out. And then, you know, you pretty much have pure air in your system. So once you get all that water out then you donโt really have to worry about, uh, freezing. I think most of the dew points are set at -40, which I hope we never get in Texas. Weโll see what the weather does this winter. Um, but weโll see what happens. So. Yeah. So I mean, youโre pretty much water free. Um, and again, you donโt have the kind of the oils and the carryover stuff that you have a natural gas in there. Anyways, I can kind of clock stuff up. So itโs a lot cleaner product, a lot easier to work with. Um, safety issues go way down. You donโt have to worry about breaking the line open in something happening.Um, so itโs itโs a much cleaner, easier system. Um, once we figured it out, and again, a lot of our customers helped us figure that out. And itโs been a great partnership since then,
Rey Treviรฑoย [00:07:15] Man. You know, if when you get somebody that when yโall do, you and your team, yโall come out and letโs say yโall are, you know, what is that process that that takes place when you guys are swapping out from a natural gas power to a unit to, to the air compressor. Is it a pretty big project or pretty simple?
Brian Stubbsย [00:07:29] Um, actually itโs itโs fairly simple. We have one customer now that that does one location a day, um, retrofits. Um, itโs been a really neat process to learn and watch. So, um, you know, they, they pretty much do the piping up to what we call our skid. So we, uh, now can skid these products. So we put, uh, an air compressor along with a dryer with, uh, with long with a tank, um, and put that all in one skid. So literally, the customer just has to cook up electricity to one side and air on the other, and then theyโre ready to go. Yeah, but downstream, you do have to change some of your valves out. Um, they have a different membrane and a different filter on those air valves if theyโre natural gas or air. Um, but, you know, those crews are getting faster and better at that every day. They can I think, uh, our customers said they can do about 75 a day. Oh, wow. Swapping out valves so they can set an air compressor or run the electricity, plug it in and then switch over everything into at the battery, um, and do about one a day. And we have 2 or 3 customers doing that right now. And itโs super interesting to watch. And, um, the production group usually doesnโt even skip a beat. So thatโs that one important one. The oil business is all about putting product on the pipeline. Right. So, thatโs pretty amazing. They might be down for for a 4 to 6 hours and thatโs it.
Rey Treviรฑoย [00:08:36] Well you know that was actually it being being a producer myself that was going to be my next question was, you know, how are yโall doing with the uh, the production. Like, are yโall stopping it or not? But if yโall actually just continue to move and keep it going, that helps out tremendously.ย Uh, because, you know, whether itโs four hours or 24, um. No production doesnโt help.
Brian Stubbsย [00:08:56] Yes, if you canโt get that time back. Because what I was talking about, though, I donโt think you can get back to the time you lose when youโre out producing.
Rey Treviรฑoย [00:09:02] Yes, exactly. And then, you know, you know, we may consider it money in the bank, but having our oil in the tanks. But hey, we also need to get it sold every day and down the line. Um, you know, with, with what you guys have been up to there to air compressor solutions. I wanted the reason why I asked you to come back on, uh, is that as weโre, you know, getting into 2024 now, what youโve been able to do there over the last four years is just youโve expanded, I think, what to three or four times the size that you were for.
Brian Stubbsย [00:09:34] In, in our fifth location right Now.
Rey Treviรฑoย [00:09:36] Yes.
Brian Stubbsย [00:09:36] So, yes.
Rey Treviรฑoย [00:09:37] And uh, you were at, I think, one right before Covid and then you started opening places up during Covid. And so you havenโt you havenโt missed a beat.
Brian Stubbsย [00:09:49] Um, we we took a stumble. I think we stuttered our step a little bit. But, you know, I think everybody did that in Covid. We definitely had to take a step back and scratch our heads and say, hey, how are we going to tackle this problem? Uh, because this problem nobody had ever seen before, and there definitely wasnโt a book to read or somebody to go, I can call you up and say, hey, Ray, what are you doing?
Rey Treviรฑoย [00:10:06] Yeah.
Brian Stubbsย [00:10:07] Um, because no one knew. Um, so it was definitely. Yeah. We had to take a step back and pretty much change our business model and change our business plan. Uh, I tell everybody, you know, as a service company in Odessa, Texas, I canโt believe we got everybody able to work outside of the building that we live in.
Rey Treviรฑoย [00:10:22] Yeah, right.
Brian Stubbsย [00:10:22] So everybody always showed up to our office every morning. Everybody showed up. Uh, we had people to work in remote. We had technicians that were. We are, you know, delivering parts to where they were so they didnโt have to come to the building and interact with more people into, you know, just our entire business plan was turned upside down. But thatโs what it took to keep going and keep producing and keep, you know, some customer problems.
Rey Treviรฑoย [00:10:44] Well but.
Brian Stubbsย [00:10:44] Along the way.
Rey Treviรฑoย [00:10:45] But you also opened able to open up another location like in 2020. That was youโre not El Paso.
Brian Stubbsย [00:10:51] Yep.
Rey Treviรฑoย [00:10:51] El Paso not Amarillo right.
Brian Stubbsย [00:10:53] ย So Amarillo was first we opened it up in 2018 that time. And then we opened up El Paso in 2020 and Albuquerque in 2021.
Rey Treviรฑoย [00:11:00] Right. And I mean, so you were able to continue to do those things. So so first of all, you know, you said the first step was take a step back, obviously, and see whatโs going on. And, you know, by taking that step back, you almost it looks like, hey, man, we just we didnโt stop. I was like, hey, we just have to stop, see whatโs going on and reassess. So as, as you were opening up Albuquerque in 2021, is that correct?
Brian Stubbsย [00:11:26] Yeah, I agree with the third.
Rey Treviรฑoย [00:11:27] Yes, yes. What was it that you were doing differently between, um, like, letโs skip El Paso for a second because that was straight up Covid. Yeah. Um, but in 2018, when you open up Amarillo, what was definitely noticeably different and opening up between Amarillo and 18 and opening up the, um, uh, Albuquerque in 2021.
Brian Stubbsย [00:11:48] Yeah, it was just a lot more kind of things you had to do. Um, real estate was still a little weird. Uh, we it took us a long time to figure out if we wanted to buy real estate or rent it there in Albuquerque, just because the market was really strange in 2021. Um, interest rates were really low, but there was no inventory. So what do you do? Um, so we ended up renting, um, again, we didnโt know where we wanted to be. Um, if you think back then, thatโs when everybody was saying commercial real estateโs dead. Yeah. No, everybodyโs going to work from home. So we didnโt want to invest in commercial real estate. Turns out we should have. Um, but, yeah, those are the mistakes you make. Um, but like I said, I remember we spent months trying to find a place to rent. Um, and then again, banks were pretty open at that point. We were telling them, hey, this going to take us six months to get this up and open, you know, middle of 2021, we hope the economyโs back. Well, weโre over this. Um, and we kind of laid out the plan to them, you know, hey, if in six months, awesome. If itโs a year and a half, we can still do it. Um, and it was just a lot of kind of hoops to jump through that you didnโt really have to before. Um, again, interviewing in a future employees, it was kind of still a pain. And, you know, December. Um, yeah. 2020. Um, it was still a pain to get people in and have a face to face interview with them. And, you know, a lot of people said, you know, I like to take, uh, candidates to dinner or lunch and just get to know them and get to know us. Um, and a lot of people said, no, no, I donโt want to go to lunch in public. Oh, okay. Well, I guess weโll do a zoom interview, which, you know, again, I like to talk to people and shake hands.Um, yeah, but we had a couple candidates say, no, I donโt want to go to lunch. Okay. So, you know, working through that, how do you feel comfortable with a new employee that youโve never met?ย Um, itโs just kind of a weird, um, um, situation where you have to work through these little things that you didnโt ever think were a big deal. And all for them. Theyโre gigantic deals.
Rey Treviรฑoย [00:13:35] Well, you know, you mentioned the banks and, uh, and how they were actually being open, you know, was it a big bank or was it like a small, small bank?
Brian Stubbsย [00:13:43] Um, at the time, we were at a local bank. Um, and again, they were they were in, in Midland, um, and they, you know, knew more about the oil field than I did, than I did. Anyways. Um, and. They are starting to see things turn around, starting to see a little bit of traction in the markets. Um, oil prices were starting to come back up by then. Um, and so it literally was, you know, if you went to them with a plan, uh, and I would say especially back then, and I think itโs even still true today, show that history. Hey, we made it through the bad part. We made it through 2020. Uh, we made it through negative oil. We made it through eight months of, you know, no growth. We made it through this. We did that, um, and, and opened a branch, which helped actually a lot. Um, yeah. When we went to the bank, said, hey, weโve done this. Um, but yeah, it was really interesting to go talk to the banks. And, and they definitely were kind of telling us theyโve got two types of customers, the ones that are still trying to figure it out, the ones that you know theyโre not sure about, they donโt have confidence in, and the ones that came to us with a plan, with an idea and then told us what they did the last eight months to get through 2020.
Rey Treviรฑoย [00:14:43] So basically you showed them the good and the bad. Even though the bad people shouldnโt be afraid because like, weโre you know, Iโm using for my listen for our listeners, Iโm using the bad, uh, because everybody, you know, everybody was in the same boat in some form or fashion, but but you just showed up saying, hey, hereโs my plan, being a leader and this is what weโre going to do. And the bank was able to at least go, oh, okay, you youโre not afraid here. And this is what you got and this is what you did pre-COVID. And then this is what you did during Covid and oh, Iโm still here.
Brian Stubbsย [00:15:16] Yes. And it took a lot of kind of kind of weird convincing on our side, I think. And and again, other people that weโre going to the banks, weโre doing it the same time we didnโt do anything special but convincing the banks they should look at your 2020 financials.ย It was really hard because theyโre like, oh, you know, any other time, hey, we had, you know, a little bit of downturn. We had, you know, 20% dip in revenue. Yeah. We everybody did. Um, our customers were at home like yeah. Um, and so trying to walk them through that process of this is what 2020 really meant. Yes. We took a decrease. We revenue was down, you know, all of this stuff. But it not as bad as people made it look. And especially if you started digging through the numbers and explaining those to the bank, which took a lot because there werenโt a lot of people asking to grow at that point in time.Um, it took a lot to convince them, hey, 2020 is not really who we are as a company. Thatโs not who we what we do long term.ย Um, it is a blip out of our control, but we recovered and we managed through it. That should tell you a whole lot more. Make that a positive.
Rey Treviรฑoย [00:16:16] Well, you know, um, knowing what you know, now, I want to switch gears to your 2020 opening of El Paso. You know, would you do that again? Would you open up a branch doing something like who I go with Again,?
Brian Stubbsย [00:16:29] ย I tell people that was one of the hardest, dumbest things I think Iโve ever done. I donโt I donโt know what we were thinking. We we made a plan. We made a schedule we had done. We pretty much copied what we did in Amarillo. We thought it would be pretty easy just to say, you know, itโs both in Texas. Itโs, you know, both this, both that. Itโs we can just cookie cutter it too. But, um, El Paso especially was going through times where they were shutting down the city because of Covid was spiking and they were having, you know, more and more cases and deaths and things like that. So it was pretty serious in El Paso, especially compared to Midland Odessa area. Okay. So yeah, they they would shut down the city.
Rey Treviรฑoย [00:17:03] Um, so letโs turn to time context because God 2020 something like it was like a long year.
Brian Stubbsย [00:17:09] It was a lifetime ago.
Rey Treviรฑoย [00:17:09] I know what it was like a lifetime ago. I mean, here it is. Only, you know, three years ago, almost oh, almost four now. But, you know, you figure we shut down, uh, in Midland, uh, and, you know, spring break in 2020. So when did the plan to open? Like, when was like El Paso, like, hey, weโre going to do El Paso. When did that happen? So way before 2020, you know.
Brian Stubbsย [00:17:30] Um, it did. So, uh, weโre at a dealer for Ingersoll Rand, you know, so they kind of kind of have territories that we can that we are, you know, solely responsible for taking the customers in that geographical area. So what had happened is they were we are working through moving into all of New Mexico in far west Texas, El Paso area, uh, pretty much at the end of 2019. Um, that kind of got put on hold for about three months. And then all of a sudden it was like, hey, weโre ready to move forward. So we had to react fairly quickly as a company. So we kind of made a business plan. We had to schedule. We kind of put it on the shelf for about three months until they came back and said, hey, weโre ready to move forward. Um, I think we kind of finally decided find all the paperwork and attorneys did all their stuff, um, in June. And then it was kind of off to the races. Hey, letโs go figure this out. We have a plan. Um, but again, it definitely was everything that worked in that old branch in Amarillo three, two years ago. The before just wasnโt working. Um, so, you know, looking at I bring up real estate, itโs just kind of funny. We just could look at buildings. we had a real estate agent there in El Paso, and he was, you know, researching and stuff, but a lot of the owners wouldnโt let us in a building, especially if there was a spike in cases of Covid. Yeah. Like, Iโm sorry weโre closed down. Um, and so it was really hard just to see stuff, um, you know, going into a new city. We wanted to meet with the city and, uh, Spanish Chamber of Commerce, and theyโve got a great organization called the Border Plex, which is an economic development group. That does El Paso, Las Cruces and what is, um, we wanted to meet with them, but, you know, you just canโt do face to face conversation. so a lot of zoom calls. That again, just felt weird at the time. And, you know, all these people Iโve known for four years and I havenโt shook their hands yet. And thatโs just kind of strange coming from the oil business. We should.
Rey Treviรฑoย [00:19:09] ย Gainesville. Yeah.
Brian Stubbsย [00:19:12] There was a lot of that kind of thing that. How do you do this? Um, I remember we found a building we liked. Um, and it had kind of kind of some problems in trying to find a contractor that would come look at it, and an architect could look at, you know, your normal steps.ย And so that Bill kind of died just because we couldnโt get people to do what we needed them to do and, and get into that building. So we found a great location that actually I like our new location better than that one. Right. So it worked out in the end. But just finding those resources and finding people to do what are kind of the mundane part of opening a branch were just really difficult, right?
Rey Treviรฑoย [00:19:44] Like you. So basically, uh, you know, itโs like, hey, man, all the stuff that we take for granted. Yeah, it was really hard. And now, you know, here we are. Like I said, going into 2024 and youโre now looking at expanding into Carlsbad.
Brian Stubbsย [00:19:55] Yes. Right. Yes.
Rey Treviรฑoย [00:19:56] And I mean, so youโre literally taking West Texas and hopefully just take over New Mexico. I mean, I think we need a whole lot more of you probably in New Mexico
Brian Stubbsย [00:20:06] Find customers. It all starts with customers.
Rey Treviรฑoย [00:20:07] So but what is it that you that youโre finding that itโs like, okay, uh, you did 2020, you did 2021. Now itโs like, what is it that like I feel like I mean, you just basically take out the blueprint now, take it to the bank and go, here you go.
Brian Stubbsย [00:20:22] Yep. Um, again, we do kind of kind of weird things at ACS. Um, so we, we actually have switch banks. Um, honestly, we had a great relationship with our bank there in Midland. Uh, but we had to just out grew up to, again, things that you donโt think about when youโre growing, um, especially kind of large growth or, you know, multiple growth, um, you donโt think about outgrowing your bank. Um, but they were weโre kind of getting to the point where, you know, we donโt need to we donโt do that as a company anymore. So found a found a bank out of Houston. Uh, great bank with us. Um, and so once we got all that figured out again, we had to teach them what we do, how we do it. Brought them a plan, brought them, you know, some history and said, hey, weโve done this three times, four times now. Um, so actually, on the same day we bought a, uh, company or a building in Carlsbad, you bought an office building across the street there in Odessa, and a vacant lot next to that, that weโre all for sale. So, um, I think we had some kind of pent up demand to grow. Um, and again, working with the bank and working with a real estate agent, trying to figure out what that looks like. Um, so the branch in Carlsbad should open up in February. Um, moving into that, um, again, thatโs an awesome community to open a business in. I canโt talk highly enough. They really open you with open arms. Theyโre a new company. Here you go. Um, honestly, as soon as we bought the building, um, everybody just came out and said, hey, youโre here. Youโre part of the community now. How can we help you out? And itโs been a just an awesome, um, um, experience getting to know them. Um, so weโre working through that, and itโs just an amazing process now that people are excited to have people move in, excited for growth, um, and excited for new ideas to come into their community.
Rey Treviรฑoย [00:21:58] And, you know, uh, I think thatโs awesome. And I think a lot of people are looking for that right now. Itโs like, you know, uh, are just theyโre excited about the new, uh, itโs almost like, you know, way peopleโs eyes are now being not, not opened or enlightened or anything, you know, but just peopleโs eyes are open. All of the possibilities, again, of all the great things that they can do and that we can do as a nation. And, and I really hope we can continue to, you know, to do that, especially with us in the oil and gas industry, you know, off air, we were talking about all these big mergers and things like that going on. And itโs like, you know, Iโm excited for them. I mean, you know, uh, being a small operator, hey, you know, to be at the side of the Exxon one day, thatโs a dream out there that, you know, I would I would say, you know, if you put on a light on a, like on a, on a vision board, just can only imagine, uh, hell, heck, uh, just being like a pioneer. Yep. You donโt want the same thing, you know? Uh, so youโre seeing all this growth out there, and then all this production in the oil and gas industry right now. Uh, you know, where do you think you know, I know we kind of talk about a little bit, you know, what are you hearing on the ground right now about where we think, you know, oilโs headed here as we go into 2024?
Brian Stubbsย [00:23:08] Yeah, like I said that, I think itโs kind of weird. I think thereโs always a wide band, uh, projections. And depending on whoโs on the news that morning or whatโs going on in the world, that band kind of moves. And I think what what weโve seen is I feel like everyone, especially the big operators, have really, um, flattened their growth curve. So they donโt want the booms and busts anymore. And thatโs kind of what we talked about all the time. They want, you know, good, steady growth every year. And um, I think a lot of them, again, a lot of due diligence on their part have made it where they can keep producing at a constant level, no matter what gas or gas and oil prices are. Yeah. And thatโs pretty amazing, especially just from ten, 15 years ago, that thatโs not how the world works. And so once you kind of have that foundation, then itโs those conversations changed very quickly. We want, you know, vendors and partners that can build with us. And, um, so thatโs really been our model, uh, the past few three years as build with them. And so through that conversations, you know, theyโre talking about I donโt think very many people and I donโt know who they are in Midland, Odessa. They think oil is going to get below Stephanie in the next 12 months. So I think thatโs a pretty, um, um, safe number for everybody. I think everybodyโs happy at 70. Um, and then it kind of only up from there. And, um, I think weโve talked about this before, but I have stopped watching national news because it kind of just doesnโt apply to the oil and gas business anymore.
Rey Treviรฑoย [00:24:28] It does.
Brian Stubbsย [00:24:29] Uh, no talking about recessions and shrinkage and all this kind of stuff, but oil or gas just keep, you know, 10%, 20% growth every year. And it is what it is though.
Rey Treviรฑoย [00:24:39] And, you know, you talk about how it doesnโt affect it. Itโs crazy. You know, here, uh, another thing weโre talking about off air is that while weโre recording, you know, at the time of recording, you know, Israel is at war. I mean, well, let me say like this, the Middle East is civil war, and prices are still a little below $80 again at the time of recording this. So, you know, everythingโs out the window. And, uh, but that $70, you know, Iโve told people for 2 or 3 years now that that 70, 65 to 75 is the perfect number where oil and gas companies make money and the economy can thrive. Yes. So weโll see where it goes for sure. I know Iโve been on my show and other shows, uh, earlier this year and probably up until even August, saying we were going to average $100. Well, this year. Well, weโll see if we even hit 100. Yes. You know, by the end of 2023, um, you know, uh, you also mentioned you working with your vendors and youโve got one of your great vendors do song whoโs getting ready to, uh, do some exciting things and letโs talk about new song a little bit and then also all the great things that theyโre up to. Yeah.
Brian Stubbsย [00:25:38] So this oneโs a really interesting company. I tell everybody theyโre kind of the General Electric of the, of the East. So theyโre a very large company and they do a lot of neat things all around the world. Um, but inside the United States, theyโve actually done a really good job and kind of Americanized their products in their business practices. So most of their work is done either in Fargo, North Dakota, or in, um, um, North Carolina. Okay. So theyโre US based. They do a lot of really good stuff. I think they make a really high quality product. Um, weโre weโre, um, involved with them now is they make portable air compressors and portable generators. So, um, in the oil and gas business, theyโre great backups is if a location goes down for whatever reason, we can pull a backup air compressor out there for a diesel fuel and they can run, um, also for obviously, construction. You see them at every bridge and construction site out there. So thereโs a lot of need for those portable power, uh, and portable air compressors and generators and do something I think makes a really good oil field ready product in there. Not all oil field radio. You know, having a a trailer lift through at least road is is an amazing event sometimes. Yeah. So uh, they do a really good job with that. So but do so and actually owns the bobcat small equipment brand. And they actually have a Doosan large equipment brand and forklifts. And so theyโre actually combining all of those, um, equip all that equipment in those market segments into the bobcat brand. So weโre really excited that we we see that as a really big growth opportunity for ASCs. We get to now bring in a new brand to our, our, um, portfolio. We get to brand that, we get to market it. And, uh, thatโs going to be a great thing to have kind of a common brand. So
Rey Treviรฑoย [00:27:17] Thatโs awesome. That is very exciting. I mean, uh, you know, everybody knows bobcat and I think, I think called the quality up. I think people that know they know Doosan, you know, like, yeah.
Brian Stubbsย [00:27:28] yeah. Itโs itโs a, itโs a niche market. But everybody knows who it is.
Rey Treviรฑoย [00:27:31] But they know who it is. And itโs like okay. Yeah. Let me go get the dude. I know itโs not like youโre saying about now that they have the field road equipment, but even before that, it was like, I know thatโs not going to let me down, you know, like, come on, you know, I donโt want to Iโm not going to compare them to any other type of tools or anything, you know, because I donโt know people. I just know that they thatโs thatโs a great company. Uh, and a good brand. Um, one thing before ball park, before we part ways is like here, weโre going into 2024. Um, for any, any of our listeners or viewers out there that are looking to expand, maybe just into maybe adding one more store, you know, what is some tips, uh, because you mentioned the banking and that you never even thought about that also was like, you know, thereโs so many small things that we canโt take for granted or that we canโt overlook anymore. You know, whatโs 1 or 2 things that that you would, you know, if somebody said, hey, man, Iโm thinking about expanding in 2024. What do you say to.
Brian Stubbsย [00:28:26] So I think, uh, one of the things that I wish somebody would have told me when I bought this and started being a real entrepreneur is is entrepreneurship is really about your support system, and youโre only as good as your support system. Um, so banks are a big part of that, especially in the capital intensive industry like oil and gas. You you got to have a good relationship with a bank. Um, but it actually comes you got to have good employees. And, uh, we have a great leadership team now at ACS. Um, theyโre doing amazing things every day, uh, probably even today. And Iโm not even there. So thereโs. They can do without me, too, which is a very big benefit of a great team. But theyโre theyโre solving hard problems every day and having a good team involved. Um, and I think a lot of operators donโt spend enough time thinking about the team and how youโre going to do it, but getting those right people in place where you donโt have to do that for them or manage them every day or every problem, um, is really how you grow. And thatโs, thatโs very important. Um, the other one I would say is, um, again, weโre kind of going on this, um, at full speed sometimes this road of growth, um, is the, uh, the leader myself. Iโve learned I need to get out and think about the business a lot more than a lot of entrepreneurs do. Uh, I still go out in the field. I still help customers go to customers meetings. Um, but. But that one day a week, I need to get in the office just to work on the business and really think about what our growth is. What what I see. Um, itโs great talking to customers and people like you to get data and information in, but at some point time, you got to just sit down and start working through whatโs that long term plan to your plan for your plan? I mean, really spend time thinking about that. I think a lot of entrepreneurs, we put our head down, we go solve problems, we grow, we we do what we need to do. But really spending time to think about what you want to do in, you know, two, five years, um, is really important.
Rey Treviรฑoย [00:30:05] Yes, I like that one. And for anybody out there that is looking for some air compressor solution.ย uh, you know, how can they reach you guys?
Brian Stubbsย [00:30:13] Um, so weโre super simple. Weโve got locations in, uh, Odessa, Amarillo, Albuquerque, El paso, and soon Carlsbad. Uh, so weโre easy to find on the internet. Our website is, uh, WWW dot ACSIR dot com. Um, but weโre on Facebook and LinkedIn and all that kind of stuff too, and see stuff from us all the time. And youโre always like, I can always go to your stuff. You just click on us cause weโre always on those which we greatly appreciate.
Rey Treviรฑoย [00:30:36] Well, I agree, I, I tremendously have enjoyed, uh, uh, you know, this is just, you know, for all the listeners out there, Iโm just I just want to say thank you. Thank you for everything and the mentorship that you, youโve, you brought to the table. And I hope everybody out there has had a great chance to listen to why it is that that, you know, I come to you, I go, hey, band up. You know, hereโs what Iโm working on. What do you think? And youโre like, well, let me tell you. And, uh, youโre doing it wrong RT, No Iโm joking Iโm joking.
Brian Stubbsย [00:31:00] I donโt know if Iโve ever said those words.
Rey Treviรฑoย [00:31:02] Yeah, you have not. But no, Brian, I cannot thank you enough. And, uh, thank you so much for coming to Dallas. Uh, to to studios here. And this is this is what itโs about.
Brian Stubbsย [00:31:10] This is awesome.
Rey Treviรฑoย [00:31:11] Oh, good. Well, thank you so much. And again, to all the answers out there, please check out Air Compressor Solutions. Uh, one of the great sponsors of the Crude Truth. Uh, please like and subscribe and, uh, please be ready for another episode here as we go into 2024. Thank you as always, and weโll see you on another episode of The Crude Truth.
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